October 15, 2005
Earlier this afternoon, a neo-Nazi group had planned a march to protest the recent black on white violence in Toledo. However this protest was quickly broken up by many unhappy African-Americans and whites. This “counter-protest” quickly turned into a group of violent people who set fires and looted homes and business.
TOLEDO, Ohio — A crowd that gathered to protest a white supremacists’ march Saturday turned violent, throwing baseball-sized rocks at police and vandalizing vehicles.Six people were arrested and police, fire and media vehicles were damaged, Police Chief Mike Navarre said.
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3:49 pm [ Quote ]
Toledo, Ohio Riots Break Out
3:30 p.m E.S.T. – According to Fox News, a planned and permitted pro-Nazi Rally that was planned for today has been overshadowed by wide-spread looting and vandalism. This has apparently been occurring for the past 1 to 2 hours. The Pro-Nazi group ha…
3:58 pm [ Quote ]
America has always had a Fascist Right. They sit there festering awaiting a troubled time in America when they can rise up and cause real havoc like they did in Germany in the 20’s and 30’s. It CAN happen here. Believe it.
4:02 pm [ Quote ]
Actually, these Nazi’s are from the ‘Socialist Party’. So you should classify them as the Socialist Left.
Also these Nazi’s make up a small minority in America. The current circumstances in America is nothing like the Germany in the 30’s. Sit your socialist, America-hating self down.
4:04 pm [ Quote ]
Steve:
Are you truly that idiotic? Ian, I think the headline you posted is a misnomer. This thuggery may have happened because of what Steve calls the “fascist right,” but once the rally (which never really came to fruition, by the way) participants had been long-gone from the area, these thugs and common criminals continued on their rampage of stealing, setting fires, etc. There is NO excuse for this type of behavior!
Were the people in these buildings the ones at the rally? Don’t know. But again, the criminal opportunitists took this event as an advantage and excuse to run amok.
4:07 pm [ Quote ]
Steve D.,
Don’t get tunnel vision staring and fixating on the right. Better to look both ways or you’ll end up catching it in your six o’clock.
4:09 pm [ Quote ]
Thanks, Ian for fixing my link, and for setting Steve straight. I did also hear that they were associated with the “Socialist Left” party…
4:24 pm [ Quote ]
This bickering over labels is completely pointless. They can call themselves Socialist or whatever, but that does not make them so. If you’re trying to accuse the liberals of supporting Nazis than I might just lose all respect for you. Maybe we should take a poll among those Nazis to see who the voted for in the last election, then we’d know for sure where their loyalties stand.
4:46 pm [ Quote ]
Wait guys.
Time for a history lesson. The name of Hitler’s Nazi Party was “National Socialist”.
They were not left. They killed and imprisoned people on the left. The further left you were the more he hated you.
These neo-nazis are the Fascist Right. They love all thing Nazi. They hate Jews and Blacks. They believe whites are superior. Just like Hitler did.
No what is left of Socialism is Communism NOT Fascism.
It is important that these differences are understood.
I am sure that the Right Wing will run into some Fascists long before a Socialist would. You have to be able to understand the kind of cancer they can be on the Right in order to prevent them from some day co-opting part or all of the Conservative Movement.
4:59 pm [ Quote ]
J? Are you serious? How did the govt advocate this in any way? Your right, we should have not allowed the nazi’s to protest. But then the ACLU would cry foul. What about the freedom of speech? But seeing as how the ACLU picks and chooses its battles, who knows.
Bottom line is, the protest was perfectly fine, but the looting, burning, etc, is ENTIRELY uncalled for.
Typically Socialists align themselves left?
5:01 pm [ Quote ]
J you can dish it out, but you can’t take it back in. Whenever I post something about a liberal doing something foolish (which is just about all liberals), i.e. Howard Dean .. I get a response “he doesn’t represent all of us”. And I am sure you have said that once before. So now when the tables turn you want to say Nazi’s represent’s the beliefs of the Republicans? Like I said, these people are in the “Socialist Party”, which is known to represent liberal beliefs.
Leave it up to the Democrats to politicize everything, including a city with civil unrest.
Hypocrite.
5:04 pm [ Quote ]
It’s absolutely disgusting how liberals polticize everything, and I mean everything. Soon you will see liberals blame Bush for stubbing their toes.
I don’t support the Nazi’s, however I am a staunch supporter of the first amendment. These people obtained licenses and approval from the city council to hold their march.
The thing you liberals don’t know is the march didn’t even take place. As soon as the violence broke out, the Nazi’s broke apart.
5:40 pm [ Quote ]
amen.
5:48 pm [ Quote ]
Rail all you like Ian it doesn’t change the truth.
Do yourself a little favor and look it up. Study it. What I have said is true.
Like you said to me all the left is the same,liberals, socialists, communists they are all the same to you. But that is not good enough. Ignorance is not bliss it is just plain ignorance.
I differentiate among elements on the Left and so should you.
I differentiate among moderate right, center right and extreme right.
So should you. The extreme right has within it the neo-nazi movement and white supremicists. It should be clear that the vast majority of those on the Right are not nazi or Fascist. However, you must understand there are elements of the Right that are just as distasteful as you find elements on the Left to be.
If you are going to operate a political blog you must learn about these different political flavors. You owe it to yourself and your fellow bloggers. I don’t mind being called a liberal or socialist but I am not on the extreme Left(Communist). I am sure you don’t want all Conservatives to be labelled Fascists or neo-nazis either so lets get our labels understood and get them correct or else disagreements begin to sound like extremes that never meet.
Believe me our disagreements are not that extreme. I agree with some of the things I read regularly and people are agreeing with some of my observations as well.
5:54 pm [ Quote ]
That’s because they are. The three associate with each other. On the other hand I don’t see Nazi’s and right-wingers associating with each other. When is the last time you saw Bill Frist wearing a swastika.
Anyways, Democrats are the ones who associate with racists anyways. Ever hear of a Senator named Robert Byrd who used the term “white niggers” and was a former Klansman?
Please just keep your mouth shut, because the more you speak the more you sound like a hypocrite.
6:22 pm [ Quote ]
Ian, there are racists accross all parties and accross most political spectrums. You continue to look only for the evil onlu the other side. In any case, you do need to look up the history of the Nazi party and it’s policies. Just because they call themselves ‘Socialist’ does not make their policy and that of the ‘Left’ any closer.
As far the ACLU protecting their right to speak, well I am not sure what to say here. I certainly belive that Nazis are part of the scum of the Earth, but I’d rather have them march in a protest then be holed up in underground meetings disucssing how to bring down the government. Most of their demonstrations attract way more counter-demonstrators which only shows that their message isn’t getting through.
And when it comes to associations with racists, last time I checked it was certain republicans who associated themselves with a certain university where inter-racial dating was banned. But I am only saying this to counter your point – unlike you I don’t believe that just because ONE person is a racist, the group he or she is part of is also racist. You however, seem to be unable to grasp this point. Actually I am sure you realize it but it’s far easier to blame an entire group of people – gives you leverage I guess but hopefully most people are smart enough to see though this kinda bs.
I know it’s easy for you ro group socialists, commies, progressives, enviromentalists all in one group – but they’re not and you need to keep that in mind. They might all have agendas that are in opposite of that of the republicans, but that does not make them the same. I certainly don’t group fiscal conservatives with social conservatives and it would be nice for you to make the same type of little effort in differentiation.
6:43 pm [ Quote ]
Do your homework Ian. You don’t have to believe me ask someone on the Right who is knowledgeable.
6:49 pm [ Quote ]
Re: J
I’m not the one who brought it up, your liberal friend Steve “i politicize everything” did.
6:53 pm [ Quote ]
J and Ian
It is time you guys did a little research. It is so easy with the Internet come on. Wilfull ignorance is the worst kind don’t go there.
6:55 pm [ Quote ]
There is a lot of confusion about the “Socialist” part of the Nazi party. And about “fascist”. but the distinction is mostly fake.
In Germany National Socialists contended that the older socialist and communist parties had undermined the WWI effort. And it was true that those parties theoretically held that modern war came from the rich competing for markets – hence the worker had no reason to support any militarism or nation.
But the Nazi also had to appeal to Germans long held values of order, strength, and social bonding. So “National Socialism” was sold as the party purged of foreign ideas. And, importantly, free of the new Communist Russia.
But make no mistake, the Nazi program was that all industry and people served the state. I would call it Statism.
Mussolini’s Fascist Party in Italy preceded Hitler to power by a decade. Mussolini had been a communist but saw that he would not take power if he stayed with a movement that attacked the Catholic church and had the vague idea that everything was to be run by workers committees trying to interpret complex doctrines.
Fascist is a word going back to Roman times. It denoted strength and justice through unity and a firm order in society. The party also gained control of all large industry and finance but they used persuasion, threats, fake legal charges, and beatings rather than nationalization.
So the Fascists were gangsters – socialists not in form but in function. The Nazi are better regarded as nationalist gangsters who used “Socialist” because it sounded good in elections.
Except in details, the programs of Stalin and Hitler look the same to me. Mussolini was somewhat different; he continued to obey the party for years, lost office, and ended as Hitler’s pawn – in control of nothing.
The Nazi and Fascist words get attached to the right because the right is associated with business and private property.
Thus the right, if forced to choose, will favor a strong government that does not seize businesses and abolish private property. They abhor the strong forms of socialism that would take all business and sometimes every iota of personal property.
7:03 pm [ Quote ]
Nazis and the KKK are so tiny and marginal these days, they are almost completely powerless. What the public and media should have done is not paid any attention to them. The original march was, what, two dozen people?
The people looting and committing other crimes in the video played right into the Nazis hands. They are behaving exactly like what the Nazis wanted to say in their little march.
7:17 pm [ Quote ]
Steve if anyone is willfully ignorant it is you. You on the left don’t know when you’re wrong or how to admit it. The fact is both sides have racists, and it is shown more on the left. Other than KKK Byrd, you have your anti-Israel people. Please don’t give me a lecture on who is racist, and who is not. There is much more hate and hostility on the left than there is on the right.
On that note: No more off topic discussion, we’re talking about today’s event .. not the racism of the left.
7:30 pm [ Quote ]
Sorry about being off topic, i started writeing that last one before you posted that. I think this is simply media bias. Poor Neo-nazi. I have no sympathy.
7:52 pm [ Quote ]
Seems to me that group was the only one that had the balls to march against the very real, big problem of Gangs. I’ve had the horrible experience of serving jury duty for an entire month on a bloods gang case of murder, kidnapping, torture, drug dealing etc… It’s a whole sub culture encouraged by their parents and girlfriends. I say bravo.
10:32 pm [ Quote ]
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11:23 pm [ Quote ]
I never said racism is a Conservative monopoly. It exists everywhere in all societies and classes. I did say it is a feature of neo-nazis and white supremicists.
Everything is politics. Tell me something that doesn’t involve politics. Politics affects everything on some level. Either through action or inaction. That is just life.
7:48 am [ Quote ]
If the cops would bust these people heads, they would not get out in the stree acting like a bunch of fools, destroying other people property, a law abbiding person dont stand a chance when they allow these nuts out side of their pen..
8:14 am [ Quote ]
That was very petty to raise an issue like Senator Byrd, and then not be able to handle the response, in fact deleteing the response. Don’t worry I’am used to this happening on conservative site and I’ve saved a back up That I’ll post on my site.
D- poli sci
10:15 am [ Quote ]
You folks are a riot with all your high powered philosophies. Left wing. Right wing. Conservative. Liberal. The situation was pretty straight forward.
1) White families in the neighborhood found notes pinned to their doors telling them to get out or be killed. The notes were left by a gang or gangs (think black).
2) The National Socialist Movement organized a protest or march of solidarity to support the rights of whites to live where they want in peace. The rights of whites rapidly becoming a forgotten and ignored principle. A couple of dozen NSM members showed up.
3) About 500 to 600 protesters showed up (think punks, gangs, blacks) and began throwing rocks, eggs, and verbal abuse. The NSM people were escourted out of the area but the lawlessness on the part of the gangs continued.
4) For several hours, the scene was one of violence, looting, theft, overturned cars, attacks on emergency vehicles, etc. Just a plain old race riot crafted into a “protest” by the Main Stream Media.
No fancy philosophical discussions are required. This was simply another race riot like New Orleans and like every other race riot in the past.
11:32 am [ Quote ]
Note to Gangsters
When You’re Protesting Racists’ Stereotypes, Be Sure Not to CONFIRM THEM.
3:54 pm [ Quote ]
I smell a remake:
Birth of a Nation the Sequal.
Nazi white trash defend the poor whites from marauding Black boogie men. It’ll sell like hot cakes.
5:08 pm [ Quote ]
RR
You are hilarious.
“rights of whites rapidly becoming a forgotten and ignored”
That quote gives you away.
The last I heard the whites controlled almost everything, owned almost everything, and made all the rules.
Maybe there is something I am missing but I don’t think so.
What we have here is pure old fashioned American brand racism.
12:15 am [ Quote ]
Is this supposed to make black people better liked by white america? Did you look at how they acted today? Like a bunch of apes! It was worse than the riots (also by african americans) that occurred in New Orleans! I just watched what the black people of toledo were saying on the news and I couldn’t even understand what they said because they were just yelling crap about black pride with slang and butchered english! Did you see all of the black people going into homes and setting things on fire? Like they did to Detroit during the riots! Which reminds me… they said on the news that the africans came from neighboring cities of Toledo… yeah in other words they came from Detroit, how nice.
5:05 am [ Quote ]
WHAT HAPPENED IN TOLEDO?
It was ugly in Toledo, Ohio, this weekend—and if you watched any of the cable news coverage or glanced at the national MSM headlines, as I did, you probably are still wondering what really went down. The Toledo Blade has…
7:42 am [ Quote ]
When will the left admit it….the socialists/communists/nazis were all to the left, because they all advocated strong central government. The definition of left and right is this: we have to have a government, and having exactly the right amount of government is called the middle (a theoretical position because nobody is exactly middle on everything), those to the left wish more government control of a thing, those to the right wish for less. Myself, I am OneSmallSteptotheLeftofAlltheWayRight.
And how can you equate the Right with Racism? The comment from Trent Lott was not racist unless you construe it a certain way, and that is LOOKING for a way to be insulted, while the Democrats form this thing called the Congressional BLACK Caucus. That’s not racial? Fart The Con stands up and says any number or racist comments, hardly saying anything NOT racist, and the CBC, the NAACP (not a racist organization by any means, is it, and do we want to pretend they are anywhere NEAR the right on ANY issue?), and every other leftist organization stands up and supports him and others who regularly spout the same stuff. Go ahead, show me one person on the right, even a commentator, who has ever said even one single little comment that was MAYBE racist and hasn’t been thoroughly scourged for it. Just one. I dare you.
No, the right is all about less government, freedom for all, and especially freedom from government “nannying”. The left is all about having Uncle Sam do everything for you. Take away your guns, he’ll protect you (what a laugh that has become). Give us your money, we’ll feed and clothe you. Just saw a headline from a while back posted on the wall at a local business, “Texas adds 1000 new laws”. With leftists like this, ignorance of the law is not only an excuse, it’s a guarantee.
8:39 am [ Quote ]
[...] Since I don’t have the time this morning to really dig into the whole Miller / Plame / Rove / Wilson / Libby / Novak / Fitzgerald thing or what really happened in Toledo, something a little more light-hearted is on the menu today. [...]
9:56 am [ Quote ]
The actions of the neo-nazis were not aimed at promoting any political interest of either political party in this country. It was aimed at hatred and bigotry – pure an simple. The actions of the persons in the ensuing riots were not aimed at promoting any political interest of either political party in this country. It was just senseless violence and wanton destruction. Both have proven their points to be equally invalid and reprehensible.
The assertion that the Nazi party of Germany was either left or right by today’s standards is completely without merit. While socialism clearly falls within the far left of the political spectrum, the socialism of the 1930’s-1940’s Nazi party is hardly espoused by (or I would hope it isn’t) the mainstream left of the US.
Fascism is neither propriety to left or right. It is just as easy for a right-winged government to be fascist (and many communist governments are), as it is for a leftist government. Fascsism is a type of government lead by an autocracy or dictatorship. I would hope all agree that our country is far from either.
Hitler was the fascist leader of his socialist party. His position is 180 degrees from anything we have in the US, and it is completely unfair and uneducated to compare the left in this country to Nazi Germany because of the National Socialist Party, or the right because of Fascism. The only thing the Neo-Nazi’s have adopted from the German Nazi party is their aryan superiority complex. They are hateful, bitter racists, and hardly try to promote a political movement of any kind – their primary agenda is spreading hatered of other races. In fact, the majority of them are anarchists, because they know that is the only political environment which would allow them to pursue their selfish interests without opposition.
The Toledo riots were all about hatred and racism. The Neo-Nazis came into it as a known hate and racist group. They hate the blacks. The blacks came into it because of their hatred and racism. They hate whites. All anyone needed was an excuse, and the Neo-Nazis probably knew that this would give it to them. The resulting riots were completely unjustified, lawless, and baseless. The media seized on it, and tried to make it into a political blame game, rather than condemning the hatred. Shame on the Neo-Nazis, shame on the rioters, and shame on the MSM. Our country is better off without any of them.
10:00 am [ Quote ]
Just to clarify, I am not categorizing all blacks as hating whites, just those who engaged in the riots. I am quite sure there are more than 500 blacks that live in Toledo, and that the few idiots who went on this crime spree do not represent the black population as a whole.
11:15 am [ Quote ]
Self Loathing white supremacist riot in Ohio
I borrowed the title from Bill Clinton forgive me.
The headline “White Supremacists riot in Ohio” about made me fall of my chair. This is a prime example of leaving out the facts. The type of reporting we have come to expect from the AP. Let me give…
12:07 pm [ Quote ]
Hey office, i see u gave a hearty “Amen” to the, “These people obtained licenses and approval from the city council to hold their march.” comment.
Yet whenever a homosexual group obtains a permit to have a rally or march you seem ot have a problem with it. why is that?
5:56 pm [ Quote ]
The only real difference between the communist party of Germany and the National Socialist party was the Nazis’ belief in German nationalism. The communists were internationalists, believing marxist ideals should be spread to all countries through a soviet style sytem of government.
Both Nazis and communists believed the state was more important than the individual. Looking at the parties in the US today, It is pretty obvious which one is more closely aligned to statism.
Our country was founded on the principle that the individual was more important to the state. This principle is the major difference between the United States and the variety of European countries that adhere to a form of feudal democracy (nanny statism).
7:04 pm [ Quote ]
With all due respect to everyone, you all have missed the true root of the problem. The issue is not that really bad crimes like this mob committed occurred, but that a liberal run city always neuters its police force in a variety of stealth ways. A highly responsive police effort could have overwhelmed these hoodlums if coming down hard on criminals was a permitted way to deal with bad acts.
So, I say the fault lies not with the permit holding marchers who never got underway nor with the mob that tore through other people’s property (they are only doing what they are allowed to do). The fault lies right at the feet of the liberal policy makers that restrain the police and prosecutors from using overwhelming force to annihilate and arrest the bad guys. You know the theme from the TV show Cops that says “Bad boys, whatcha goin’ to do…”, well, the reality is they don’t worry about it anymore as there is nothing to fear for them.
10:40 pm [ Quote ]
I grew up most of my life in that part of Toledo OH. Exactly 2 blocks from where the riots happened. I am now 28 years old and vividly remember walking down those streets 15 years ago and being chased by a group of all black kids dressed in RED claiming to be “bloods”. I was threatened because i was wearing a rival gang color-blue,which just so happened to be my grade school uniform.Not to mention I wasn’t black. I now live in Columbus Ohio and am disgusted with the fact that people in that area have not only worsened in the way they carry themselves but now the entire country knows a little bit about the “blue collar” city I grew up in as a kid.They should have just let these Neo-Nazi people have their stupid march just as America let the blacks have their “thousands more march”. if I’m not mistaken,American tax dollars paid for the security and management of the African American march that same week. I spoke with a few old neighbors that had to hear the chaos right outside their doors and said they are sincerely scared and more importantly embarrassed about what transpired. These people need to pull their heads out of their asses….their only destroying themselves.
11:01 pm [ Quote ]
Steve D, you should give credit to K for clarifying the Fascist/Socialist distinctions.
Nazis and the Right have no common lineages.
It’s strange that when a Justice Dept is run by Democrats, the left is unconcerned about issues like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Elian Gonzalez, but goes nuts when Republicans do far less (the Patriot Act?).
BTW - Ian, as far as right-wingers and Nazis associating with each other – there was one recent situation where they found common cause – guarding the Mexican border during the Minuteman Project this past summer. But that hardly qualifies them as political equals.
Finally and to the point, it’s sad when rioters play right into the hands of Nazis. No one asked African Americans to destroy the property of innocents. They’ve done nothing to help THEIR cause.
8:34 am [ Quote ]
wow, how many inaccuracies can I deal with….
Hitler promoted strong government, and governmental control. This is EXACTLY like the left.
He felt that the removal of rights, specifically the right to bear arms, was best for controlling the population. The left in this country today finds gun control, in any way, shape or form, short of their ultimate goal which is NO GUNS.
He felt that his race was superior and should rule the world. The left feels that every race (and gender) should get some form of help because they “need it”. Different forms of racism, to be sure, but racism just the same.
Hitler had his elites, even though he liked to call them officers, while telling us that the elites (the rich) were the problem, so he did massive wealth transfers, calling them taxes.
There are many instances in which the left is NOT like Hitler, but then again, they never allow that for Bush/conservatives, so why should I….oh, okay, I’ve already allowed for it, don’t get your panties in a bunch.
ALL governments are to the left, because to the right is less governmental control and more personal responsibility. If you don’t draw left and right this way, you have no reason to put any one governmental form in any one camp, because whatever rules you come up with will invariably be shared by both to some differing degree. The only way I can draw the middle is to realize that some government is necessary. Exactly how much, and how much of our power we give away to them, is the argument for where you are.
11:38 am [ Quote ]
There were two marches organised by hate-mongers this past weekend, one in Toledo, the other in Washington DC.
One was stopped before it ever started—the anti-hate crowd was very violent, so the city stopped the planned march before it ever began.
The other went off without a hitch—was there an anti-hate crowd? We weren’t told.
One was followed by rioting, arson and looting.
Was a voice even lifted in protest to the other one?
One was put together by the “America’s Nazi Party, the other by the Nation of Islam.
One had been put together because the organizers claimed that citizens were feeling threatened by gangs in the city.
The other was put together to claim that people had been deliberately killed or left to die in the recent hurricane crisis because of their race, that some people should form racially exclusive political parties, perhaps nations, that jews knews that 9/11 was going to happen, that some people are devils.
The organizers of one were subjected to their rightfully deserved derision. The organizers of the other were treated like their opinions and stances mattered.
After one gangs rioted and destroyed property in the same city that organizers had come to to protest the cities inaction to the gang problem
The hate-mongers who were alloed—no, encourged to spread their filth were black. The people who rioted, burned and looted were black.
And the white people? Why they stand back and try to figure out some way to blame themselves.
The nazis were shut down, their first amendment rights were taken away. They were made to leave. And still there was a riot. Still there was violence. Do you know why? Because no one shuts up the other hate-mongers. No one exposes them for the idiots they are. The black people won. The gangs won. Freedom lost.
3:50 pm [ Quote ]
[...] Fox News (via The Political Teen) also has video evidence of the riots. [...]
12:53 pm [ Quote ]
I think that this TIME article has had probably done the best job in reporting the Toledo Riots. It provides information on who the neo-nazi group (from Virginia) and the context of the situation in the neighborhood.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,1118339,00.html
All the talk about Nazis being on the left is ludicrious. Nazis were for stong central government, but they also advocated stong military, family values, traditional gender roles and nationalism as well as hating others. On a political spectrum they are closer to the Religious Right than the “business republicans”. But, historically, Facists also tend to be economically liberal (in the classical sense, free markets, etc.) as long as it doesn’t interfere with state operations. Chile under Gen. Pinochet is probably the best example, as laissez-faire was implemented in all levels of the economy.
In the end Fascists tend to care less about the economy and more about the state as the foundation of daily life. In this regard, Soviet Communisim can be seen as “conservative” or “right-communism” (in relation with other radical ideologies, libertarian-socialism, anarchism, “true” socialism and communisim, etc.) with the insistence on statism and even maintaining the status quo (China is a good example), rather than it’s supposed goal of stateless and classless society.
What happened this weekend only exposed the rift that is occuring in the United States right now, because people on all sides just don’t understand what is happening on the “other side”. Blame will be poured all over yet nothing will be done to fix the problem.
3:23 am [ Quote ]
Right now, we need to stop worrying about right or left, wheter hitler was for the left or right, or any of that crap. Those are important issues, however, there is one issue which is more pressing which is this riot. It seems that a lot of people, especially the conservatives are placing the blame for this on the black community, making them seem like they are all “hate-mongers” and “gang members”. But then again, it can only be expected to be portrayed this way when the mass media sensationalizes this incident like so many other things that they report about, making it seem as if these nazis who advocate violence and hate were totally innocent and faultless. Take it from some people who were actually there, who not only witnessed this event, but also fought alongside these “gang members” and against the nazi scum.
http://www.antiracistaction.us/pn/
Although the mass media may portray this as a riot involving only blacks, it is simply not so. Chapters of A.R.A. (Anti-Racist Action), which is a skinhead based organization that is multi-racial and dedicated to fighting racism and hate, along with S.H.A.R.P. (Skin Heads Against Racial Prejudice), who are also similar to A.R.A. in their multi-racial and anti-racism philosophies, where just a few of the many non black participants in this uprising, as seen in the picture below.
http://cbusimc.org/node/232
This event should not be simply dismissed as “black gang violence” because it is not the case in this situation. Many non blacks supported and fought along side the “black gang members” who were conveniontly the only ones shown to be doing anything wrong. Granted, it was not right for a riot and looting to break out, however, is it not something which should have been expected? Did people really think that these “innocent” nazis, whose rhetoric is hate, killing, rape, assult, murder, ethnic cleansing, destruction and genocide of all blacks and non whites, not going to be callenged aggressively and violently by the black community, especially when these nazis came into their neighborhoods? Why is it that the nazis are portrayed as innocent and the black community is portrayed as “evil”? Why did the black community as well as the many other non blacks fighting against these nazis riot? Just like the Rodney King riots in South Central L.A., they were fed up. The people who allowed these nazis to march through their neighborhood spit in the face of the black community and insulted them by allowing this to happen. And just like in the Rodney King riots, the community lashed back and began to riot and loot. Why did they do so? Because everything they destroyed represented white America, which had always oppressed them and treated them like second class citizens. And by doing so, they got back at White America which had let them doing again.
Now when it comes to the issue of free speech, I am all for it. I am grateful for the fact that I can say and think what I want. However, when it comes to things that the nazis preach, such as hate, murder, genocide, and destruction of all those who are not not white, it is something which should not be allowed. Although it may violate the freedom of speech for them, it violates and even greater rights of the rest who are non white, of which include the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The basic rights that our Fore Fathers fought and died for and that we are constantly reminded of in our Declaration of Independence. To allow such hate to be preached by these nazis violates these rights and i would much rather restrict and/or violate the freedom of speech if it means giving up the rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
We all must get our prioities straight and stop being so childish about who right wing and left wing politics, who is right and who is wrong, and start focusing on the real issues. These riots are a reminder of these issues and problems which have been ignored due to this petty right wing, left wing conflict.
p.s. And for most likely everyone else out there who think that I am stupid or dont know what I am talking about when I mentioned earlier the skinhead groups such as A.R.A. and S.H.A.R.P. fighting along side with the black community and think that all skinheads are nazis, please click on the link below to educate yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead
I, myself being a “Trad Skin” have been labeled and steriotyped as a nazi because of the portrayal of the mass media, which like I had said earlier, sensationalizes things and often does not accurately portray what they don’t understand.
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