August 23, 2005
We have the ability to take him out and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert-ops do the job and get it over with.
Pat Robertson is allowed to have an opinion – that is one of the great things about America – however, sadly he is allowed to make a stupid one at that. I imagine this will blow over by tomorrow, but I did want to make a point that I don’t think Jesus performed miracles and then advocated the assassination of world leaders. Did I miss that part in the Bible or something?
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8:11 pm [ Quote ]
Jesus did not advocate violence at all, rather He commanmded us to pray for and even do good to our enemies. How many of us, like Robertson, have in the heat of the moment been guilty of intemperate remarks? We need to be careful how we judge anyone for one error in judgment. What really bothers me most about this situation is that his stupid comments will give ammo to those hateful of Christianity, at least any part of Christianity they don’t think fits into their dreams of a liberal socialist utopia in America and the world, and we will hear this moment brought up over and over again in their heated attacks on the Church. If Robertson was in a position to cause others to take action based on his remarks, he needs some form of penalty for such comments, but I don’t think he is in that position, though I could be wrong. I do not accept his views at all, I repudiate any calls for assasination absent a state of war!
However, considering that Chavez hates America and loves Fidel Castro; and he has threatened to cut off our supply of oil before, about 10% of our annual supply, I have to wonder what Americans might think of these remarks when gas costs $5.00 to $8.00 or greater per gallon? I am not using that to justify his comments, just wondering how people might react under that situation!
8:21 pm [ Quote ]
My thoughts exactly.Just you wait by tomorrow though,this will be a segway
for some sort of neocon versus Cindy
Sheenut.Leave it to Ron Reagan to make
some sort of cross reference,he never
let’s me down when it comes to liberal
craziness.
11:00 pm [ Quote ]
If Pat Robertson had said this about President Bush he would have been hailed by the American left has a progressyve thinker! There are already those kool-aid swilling moonbats who have suggested such a thing, but you rarely hear about liberals trying to exorcise such idiots from their ranks.
I also think it pathetic that certain Christian-haters quickly claim that Pat Robertson is speaking for God/Jesus/Bible. Clearly this isn’t true. Yet isn’t it interesting how the left is loath to bad mouth Islam when a significant number of Muslim fundamentalists are committed atrocities directly in the name of Allah/Koran/Mohammed?
I see this as a rather despicable double-standard because from what I’ve seen on liberal blogs and news chat rooms all of Christendom is being tarred by liberal secular/socialists.
And the Christian-hating left shouldn’t be pointing any fingers since atheist governments (R.J. Rummel’s “Death by Government” and the French research “The Black Book of Communism”) and their politically motivated pogroms that have resulted in the murders of over 200 million people in the 20th Century alone make Pat Robertson, or all of Christendom for that matter, seem like Boy Scouts by comparision.
I don’t see how a liberal, whose political philosophy has greenlighted the murder of 46 million unborn Americans, has the right to be pointing fingers even at what Pat Robertson SAID. Conservatives and Christians are already doing a pretty good job of policing our ranks. But where’s the liberal who will tirelessly intone that this is Robertson’s constitutional right? No where to be found, I see.
I’d just as soon see the likes of Chavez, Castro, Usama bin Laden, Zarqawi or any other evil leader get what they so richly deserve. And if the truth be told I’m sure most people would say, if not think, the same thing.
11:18 pm [ Quote ]
When I finally heard his comments in conttext, I was a bit surprised. I have been a supporter of Mr. Robertson for many years. I even graduated with a Master’s degree from the university he founded.
I don’t advocate death—but it’s clear in the Bible that there were occasions when apparently it was appropriate (old testement). But one thing is for sure, Pat Robertson is not God.
Red State Patriot
11:51 pm [ Quote ]
A stupid thing to SAY, but not a stupid thing to actually DO.
12:09 am [ Quote ]
Ha Ha!
3:13 am [ Quote ]
Pat should not have said aloud what he said. He should have been more practical tactical and covert. But would that have meant he was dishonest about his true thoughts? Choices, choices, choices. Are the Venezuelans discussing this? And us Americans too. Or are we all loudly broadcasting some profound hypocrisy: our unwillingnes to help our brothers as we would wish to be helped were we ruled by totalitarian tyrants whether they be Islamofascist or Marxist?
In the abstract: Facing an individual who or a true believing member of an entity which as a primary and non-defensive practice certainly acts in ways known to result in the killing of another or other human beings and who undoubtedly derives a self-interested pleasure of some sort from the killing and gains either primarily or secondarily certain power(s) over others evinced by the response of living other person(s), a third party or parties or institution representing the third party would reasonably and rightly prevent further killings or those responses by rendering the killer inactive in some way trying to find the greater good at the expense of one’s soul. At the risk also of revealing to others the ever present danger of revealing one’s own hypocrisy.
Jesus did not ask us as believers to give up common sense and asked us to continue to use our common sense and logic once we believed in the One True God. We believers hope for some betterment in our own lives as well as in the lives of others while we full well recognize the sacrifice we too make following in His way. It is one thing to sacrifice one’s self and quite another to sacrifice one’s neighbors or friends or some distant person we’ll never see or know. Further we believers are instructed to subject ourselves to and of course discharge our duties appropriately in those situations wherein there is a hierarchy of decision making and implementation or other (but we humans are notorious for our second guessing every body else). Some individual(s) other than the individual or member(s) of entities representing the threatened individual(s) may be hierarchically either legally or common sensically charged with protecting threatened or potentially grieving individual(s) from being killed and seek to deactivate the killer(s) by whatever means necessary starting with the rightful then the legal then the pragmatic.
In fact (but also in summary): Hugo Chavez is a Communist; he “used the Venezuelan Air Force to send humanitarian aid to the Taliban, he wanted to send troops to help the Taliban but couldn’t circumvent U.S. blockades, and he donated large amounts of money to al Qaeda. Intelligence indicates the Chavez regime may also be protecting and training thousands of Colombian and Arab terrorists, including members of Hezbollah.” Etc, etc, etc. Chavez is a killer, is a true believer of Communism/Marxism which is replete with statements and facts supporting killings to further its agenda of domination through whatever techniques are available including killing, and directs killers trained by Fidel Castro. I agree with Pat Robertson that deactivating Chavez is a right and good thing to do. Now neither Pat nor I are in a position to order or to do what we would to rid the world of Chavez who is just another minature though deadly enough, if one is in his way, version of Castro, Stalin, or PolPot with not as much American TV time. If I were to be responsible for Chavez’s demise and now as well, I ask God for forgiveness for to have thought is almost as bad as to have done it; but get it done I would covertly if possible.
Far better that the Venezuelan’s do it themselves covertly if they’re able; they who’ve been harmed and intimidated, who directly have suffered at the hands of this evil man. I’d pull the trigger; would you? Preemptive acts against our American mortal enemies is a most difficult situation but especially when we’ve not been directly harmed and only a scant easier when the threat is sure.
PR-wise we should all be covert and rather shamelessly politically correct and only marginally leftist or rightist in appearance. But get the bastard. (Apologies to his mother.)
(A far better argument would be to destroy the Iranian capacity to make nukes, covertly of course, with the locals, of course.) Are we Americans and Iranians discussing this?
5:09 am [ Quote ]
Whatever you may think about Chavez, he is elected by the people, period. I know that americans are not crazy about him, but the CIA etc. and the upperclass of Venezuela have allready tried to get rid of him, not succesfull untill now. I know why, the upperclass is afraid that their colonist attitude and their wealth might be in danger, and the americans want to have controll over the oil. That is the reason. All their commercial tv stations are controlled by the elite. It is a small miracle that Chavez is still in power. And he wants to stay there, untill the next election. US now in Irak because they want democracy, but in Venezuela the chosen leader must go, because they don’t like Chavez.
And don’t tell me that I am a communist or lefty, if you love democracy, than don’t try to kill democracy in other nations.
And by the way, we dutch are paying allmost 4 times more than you to put fuel in our cars, but I don’t have a problem with Chavez..
6:22 am [ Quote ]
I am A christian and I agree with rev roberson 100% we should remove all evil
people from the world, dictators, rapist,
murders, islam is the enemy terrorist is just a tactic, child molesters, thieves,
if the rev roberson was a liberal you would not hear one word about this from the main stream media, if we remove the above evil from the earth we will have peace on earth and good will toward everyone.
7:05 am [ Quote ]
I am confused by some of the comment,s
you say god didn,t do this and that , now I have A bible with verse,s like their is a time for everything, a time to kill, a time to be killed, a time to smile a time to laugh, a time to frown , one verse that i do not think anyones obeys
is we should cry when one is born and be glad and happy when they die, but we all do the oppsite, but at least rev roberson is not
supporting the murdering of three thousand baby,s a day like the liberals and rino,s do for a vote, called abortion.
or right to murder baby,s or what ever they called it now. come over and read my bible if you want to. 46 million baby,s put to death in the last few years
by democrats and rino,s their is no way that these people will avoid hell, but I guss it is fine with them to murder the innocent and allow the evil to live if they can get a vote out of it.
7:48 am [ Quote ]
Having a fundamentalist christian pundit recommend murder is way to similiar to an imam recommending jihad for my comfort. I know it’s not the same, but still… Way too similar. I hope he apologizes and retracts today.
That said, Chavez was “elected” by the people in the same way that Stalin was “elected” by the people. The quotes denote sarcasm.
Venezuela’s recent recall election, monitored by former President Jimmy Carter, was so rigged in advance in favor of President Hugo Chavez that the European Union (EU) refused to play an observer’s role.
I know you think the US government tells only lies Louiza, so would you believe the EU?
9:44 am [ Quote ]
Greatest things about freedom of speech (in order):
1. We get to say what we want.
2. The rest of us get a clearer picture of the guy saying what he wants.
3. Everyone gets to compare how different camps react to one of “their” guys saying what he wants.
I’m so proud of my brethren on the Right, who pull no punches in criticizing Pat on principle. This compares quite favorably to Lefties who twist logic to the Nth degree in defending unprincipled statements from their own guys.
10:43 am [ Quote ]
frank: In your long story:
“Hugo Chavez is a Communist; he “used the Venezuelan Air Force to send humanitarian aid to the Taliban, he wanted to send troops to help the Taliban but couldn’t circumvent U.S. blockades, and he donated large amounts of money to al Qaeda.”
Do you even know what a communist is or do you use it as a foul word? Like Chaves is a bastard? Because communism and radical islam do not go hand in hand.
Is that the same intelligence that places WMD’s in Iraq? Or don’t you even have substantiation for your claims?
This is about American dependence of OIL, nothing more. In the old days, countries would invade others because of good harbors or other resources.
Chavez is not evil. For millions of venezuelans living in poverty he is the only light in years of neglect. These people do not care about your need for oil. They care about housing, medical care, work and food.
As an inhabitant of an relatively ritch island in front of Venezuela I can tell you that there are more illegal immigrants from Colombia, Haiti and other surrounding countries coming here than Venezuelans.
And as far as killing Chavez? What is the difference between a terrorist killing Iraqy constitutional writers?
Radicalsm of any type, be it liberal,conservative,islam or christian is wrong. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the true evil of our times.
10:53 am [ Quote ]
[...] I’m sure by now you’ve read the article here on the Political Teen. While I agree with Ian’s comments about what Jesus would do, let’s take the rhetoric down a notch, ok? The Chicago Tribune steps in it big-time. [...]
1:30 pm [ Quote ]
The thing that sucks about all this is the danged liberal “Seperation of Church and State” moonbats will be coming out of the woodwork with “This is the kind of extremism… blah blah blah”
The left sickens me.
2:28 pm [ Quote ]
And Now, Insanity Corner With Pat Robertson
When conservatives want to find something juicy to fisk, we turn to the Minneapolis Star Tribune. When liberals want to do the same, they turn to Pat Robertson, who fulfills much the same role as the Strib as a fount…
1:53 am [ Quote ]
Ing, in partial answer to your questions:
Yes, and more than a bit of its seedy history of its murderous disregard for individual life.
Yes, because of the evidence of its multitude of foul actions against fellow human beings including killing innocents, the most effective of the acts to create chaos in establishing the “dictatorship of the prolitariat”.
Yes, used for emphasis of his mean and disagreeable nature in the extreme (no offense intended to his biologic parents, legal or not). Both Islamofascism and Communism/Marxism have joined forces under the precept that the enemy of my enemy is my friend and both are joined in being totalitarian political institutions (one atheistic; the other deluded by Satan masquarading as a god called Allah (once Mohammed admitted Satan had decieved/fooled him; if he only recognized the one deceit, an unbiased other might see other proofs of Satan’s influence in various other Islamfascist inconsistencies-contracdictions-acts wherein the evil lives on and feeds on the destruction of the indiviudal; another part of the understanding of its evil is by seeing the stunted, rotten, and spoiled fruits of Islamofascism over the years to include its poverty of the mind’s production of the innovative, the high rates of congenital deformity by family inbreeding, and its murderous subjugation-intimidation of others within and outside of Islamofascism, and its destruction of very old works of art which harm no one.
Energy by oil is important world-wide not just to the good of the Americas but even more so to those who live marginally in the best of world times; government control of the means of production and distribution is a terribly flawed system (witness Cuba and the former USSR) where there is even more suffering and spiritual and physical poverty than in capitalist (a Marxist term), (better said as) free enterprise systems. If you are not aware of these dangers you’ve missed a significant part of a good education, so try reading F.A. Hayak’s The Road to Serfdom for starters. The only real hope for the common Venezuelan people is a vigorous free private enterprise system with enforced laws applied equally to/for all derived from a democratic process of legislation; we’ve not yet seen a truly free vote there with no threats, intimidation or just plain cheating (don’t dare quote Commie Jimmy Carter’s opinion of free elections there for he sold his soul for notoriety long ago; he’s a traitor of the US like Chavez is of Venezuela; both hurt and continue to hurt their homelands to satiate their own ever starved egos.)
Iraqis writing a constitution are not killers; Chavez is. (Ask yourself how could you possibly equate these two so different issues; what belief do you have that is frought with essential wrong-headedness that you can posit a correlation. I suspect you’ve been ensnared in fancy sounding, emotion laden, immature or intellectually defcient corruptive influence mixed with some group dynamic esposing of a well disguised Hegelian dialectic construct which seeks not truth but requires maybe not formally a repetition of a flawed catechism to build some more mindwashed foot soldier who the elite just think are only so stupid to fall for the bunk. To deprogram your self alone is quite difficult but for starters write down the synthesis statements then back it up to the antithetical statement which most often is just plainly ‘off the wall’ crazy as an answer to the thesis statement which also tends to be hyperbolic and emotional. But as I said to do it alone is very difficult and may require the luxury of a figurative ‘40 days-in-the-desert alone with your demons and your God’.) Chavez seeks or holds absolute power which will continue to corrupt him absolutely until/unless the defenders of freedom, a miracle, or an act of God complete a deactivation of him. (This group of defenders of freedom, these trusted others, are required offering a balance to decison making and minimize one person being misled by his own thought and acquiring the traits of the enemy.)
Radicalism of and by itself is not evil; but some acts obviously are, such as deceit in its many forms, theft, destruction of another’s property, excessive self-interest, and killing and its consequences as recommended/committed by radicals and deserve correction/prevention to protect the law abiding. Pray you are forgiven for your imperfections and you will receive forgiveness but not necessarily correction of your imperfection; also act for the good as God would have you know it. Pray there is a system available to protect you and your loved one’s liberty and that the time does not come where you stand between that evil one’s desire to kill or otherwise violate your child or wife. If it does, then pray you’ve developed the courage of true manhood to defend/protect those loved ones with the needed action regardless of your personal risk; for a hero has but one death, a coward many.
11:59 am [ Quote ]
Frank: wow.
I don’t write long texts, so I’ll be a bit shorter.
First of all:
“Iraqis writing a constitution are not killers” Please read my comments, their pretty simple written, without too many adjectives.
What I said was that there is no difference between terrorist killing Iraqy constitution workers and U.S assasinating a foreign head of state.
I do not condone either. As for the rest of your attack on my personal believes and education, let me just say that mine differ from yours.
Now you took my post as a my justification for communist regimes. They are not. Having visited Cuba, I can tell you lots of pro’s about the system. I can also give you just as many con’s.
What I think is a problem with your thinking is that you totally dismiss one side and glorify the other. It is rarely the case, the solution is usually somewhere in the middle.
As close as I live to Venezuela, (we even get Venezuelan T.V), I can tell you that most people I meet from Venezuela themselves do not feel that they are in a dictorial regime. Yes, some do not agree with all policies of their administration, but they do not dismiss it totally like you do.
As far as praying. Well, I think you can guess that one for yourself.
12:39 pm [ Quote ]
Two Asses In A Nation
I have a general editorial policy when it comes to the public utterances of Christian Coalition and 700 Club founder Pat Robertson: No comment. The reason why seems very straightforward, at least to me: I don’t take the mumblings of cranks seriously,...
10:36 pm [ Quote ]
I just wanted to clarify a few points here. It seems like many people are writing in favour of getting rid of a dictator who doesnt actually exist.
Chavez is a democratically elected president (elected twice and then voted to stay in power in 2004 by referendum).
He is not a dictator and is not an islamist. He is also not a communist. All he is doing is attempting to help out the poor of Venezuela who have been denied any governmental representation for over 40 years due to a system called ‘punto fijismo’ which was put in place by the 2 main political parties in 1964. They are both right wing parties and as a result of this agreement, shared power up until 1999. Chavez has been the only good prosepct for the poor (who make up 80% of the population) and hence had huge support which gained him a 56% victory in 1998.
Chavez has been implementing changes in Venezuela to provide housing, medical care and education for, not only the poor, but everyone. He is rebuilding infrastructure that was uncared for previously and making sure people can make a living for themselves. He reshuffled the board of the Venezuelan oil company in order to ensure that the assets which belong to the country can be used to benefit its people.
He doesnt hate the US, but like many, is against the war in Iraq and attack on countries where innocent lives are lost as casualties of war because some people thousands of miles away want to ‘make a difference’. Chavez has said he respects Clinton and Carter and even offered to provide free oil for those affected by hurricane Katrina.
Also, the referendum which took place to decide whether Chavez was to finish the remainder of his term, was in fact hailed by both Jimmy Carter’s foundation and the EU, in addition to a number of other international bodies, as being one of the most transperant and clean elections/referendums in recent history. A public recount was even organised to prove the results werent fixed.
Well, I hope that provides some insight into who this guy is. Remember, the media doesnt always tell you the whole truth, so I would suggest that people start reading around subjects before they make any particularly strong comments with regard to a subject they know nothing about.