If you haven’t seen it on Drudge already, the Sheehan divorce rumors are true. Michelle Malkin who first reported on this last evening was the first blogger on this tonight. As I respect Michelle as a terrific journalist and putting up any news on Sheehan, I don’t think the divorce should be a topic that is discussed. A divorce is a private family matter and has no merit in this discussion since the two separated in early June 2005. A death of a child, especially one that died in war, is something that severely (for lack of a better term) fucks up a family. The only thing that should be discussed in this case is the crazy antics of a woman who needs to stop using her son to get her political agenda out. In my humble opinion, we should stay on the topic and let the Sheehan family deal with the divorce in private. Now I wouldn’t go as far as my friend over at Balloon Juice did, but you get the idea of how he feels on the matter. And I wouldn’t go to the other end of the spectrum, like La Shawn does, and says we shouldn’t discuss this matter. Sheehan deserves all the bad press she gets because she decided to put her face in the media. Sorry you just can’t have it both ways.
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12:16 am [ Quote ]
This woman is grieving. Whether or not people agree with what she is saying or doing, they should give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe the grief over her son’s death is leading her to do things she wouldn’t otherwise. Would Casey Sheehan want people talking about his mother like this? Don’t we owe this veteran something? Is all this talk about being pro-troops just talk? If not, leave Casey Sheehan’s family alone. I am truly embarrassed by the way some of the right-wing bloggers (not you) are handling this. It’s horrible.
12:17 am [ Quote ]
In the words of Darth Varder, “very impressive”. I agree, we are free to criticize her political actions, the rest is getting tabloid and sick.
2:59 am [ Quote ]
carolm said: “...the rest is getting tabloid and sick.”
I agree. Not to mention that raising the divorce issue in order to smear Cindy would absolutely backfire, here’s why:
Divorce rates among parents who loose children in war are almost 90%.
So, you might not want to go there.
5:02 am [ Quote ]
Actually, Ian, I didn’t go that far either. I think the vitriol directed at Sheehan from the right side of the blogosphere is not only bad for the image; it’s uncouth. Please read my post again and don’t spread the false story that I think we shouldn’t talk about her at all.
7:54 am [ Quote ]
Have you ever wondered IF her husband is “so apauled” that his son’s mother – his wife is shaming his sons memory and he wants out and away from this lunitic?
If we think this lady is nutz, how do you think he feels? I bet he can’t wait to “get out”
Look how many mothers have lost son’s and daughters in this war. And how many of them are acting like this lady?
The ARE NOT - why? Because they don’t have a political agenda like this nut.
I feel for the family for their loss, but I have distain for this woman’s political agenda.
To me it is obvious – why is everyone coddling her?
8:37 am [ Quote ]
Anyone who calls themselves Vince Foster for a Blog is a total AssHat!!
You have no credibility, I doubt you have kids, and I especially doubt that if you do, any of them will ever serve in the military. So you won’t get the experience to know what she is going thru.
9:42 am [ Quote ]
Other than one who actually served having the right to speak about what they believe is happeneing and how they feel about it is the parent of someone who actually gave their lives in service.
It is much easier to attack this women that address her real concerns. She is getting a divorce? Check Limbaugh, Check Gingrich. What do they blame their divorces on? Sure as fuck wasn’t any traumatic event like this.
Malkin’s and O’Rielly’s and Hannity’s and the rest failure to realize that she has a right to say what ever the hell she wants,and President Bush’s refusal to demand the personal attacks on her stop shows the weakness of their positiona dn is tantamount to an admission of her charges against Bush.
Not one of these people ever served. but they all have fucking opinions and waste no time attacking as opposed to demanding we actually get some answers to the may questions she poses.
It makes me sick.
10:06 am [ Quote ]
Ian, it’s me… LadyCop. You should look at the video from MSNBC’s Hardball last night. Chris Matthews is back, and boy is he in full swing. He did everything but come through the TV and give Cindy a full-on mouth kiss!
He interviewed Cindy for a full 2 segments, and once asked her if she was going to run for Congress. She said that no, she is pretty much a one-issue person. Then she went on to describe what was “really” going on in Iraq (yeah, whatever). Then Chris told her she should run for Congress because she obviously knows more about Iraq than do the people in Congress!! WHAAAA???
Then he asked her about the impending divorce by her husband. She just kind of bowed her head and said she didn’t really want to go any further into her “private” life, and that that (her divorce) was just another “result from this awful war.” SHE IS BLAMING THIS WAR FOR HER DIVORCE
Then, it gets WORSE! He goes to interview an Iraqi woman who is here, and went down with Mike Gallagher and about 100 other supporters of our troops and the President. Chris went at her HARD, and she obviously had a language barrier. But she told Chris she came to Crawford to tell Cindy to stop, and that America’s sons and daughters did NOT die in vain! Chris grilled her about the “insurgents,” and asking her repeatedly about where they were from. She could only say “bad people,” and she didn’t really know. He said something like “well, I’m asking YOU.. where are these insurgents coming from who are killing our soldiers? are they Iraqis or what?” She said “well, I don’t go to bad people and ask where do you come from,” and that sort of shut him up.
But then really pushed her asking 2 or 3 times “how much longer will our troops have to stay in Iraq?” and she couldn’t give him a definitive answer. He again demanded “how long? 2 years, 5 years, 10 years?” and she was obviously confused… she said she couldn’t give him a time frame.
This is quite ballsy for someone like him to ask a woman who is now FREE and probably had to endure Uday & Qusay’s rape rooms. And probably lost LOTS of loved ones to Saddam’s brutality
Ian, please link this video… it’s “classic” (or should I say “crassic”) Chris Matthews.. kiss Cindy’s butt, but demean the Iraqi woman who is now free!
10:19 am [ Quote ]
“I have lost almost every friend that I had before Casey died. My husband and I are separated, because he doesn’t support my activities.”—Cindy Sheehan
“My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11…”—Cindy Sheehan
“America has been killing people on this continent since it was started. This country is not worth dying for…”—Cindy Sheehan
“When I was growing up, it was Communists’. Now it’s Terrorists’. So you always have to have somebody to fight and be afraid of, so the war machine can build more bombs, guns, and bullets and everything.”—Cindy Sheehan
“And I’m gonna say, “And you tell me, what the noble cause is that my son died for.” And if he even starts to say freedom and democracy’ I’m gonna say, bullsh*t.
You tell me the truth. You tell me that my son died for oil. You tell me that my son died to make your friends rich. You tell me my son died to spread the cancer of Pax Americana, imperialism in the Middle East. You tell me that, you don’t tell me my son died for freedom and democracy.’”—Cindy Sheehan
Noooo… this wack job doesn’t have an agenda!
10:29 am [ Quote ]
t r u t h o u t | One Mother’s Stand
By William Rivers Pitt
Thursday 11 August 2005
8:05 PM
“Cindy treated it [the Quartarolo letter] with a shrug. Her husband will send out a more detailed response soon. In the meantime, Cindy says the letter is to be treated as little more than bad, dumb noise.”
http://www.truthout.org/cindy.shtml
The more detailed response was released and we reported on it.
I would agree with you that this was private if the Sheehan people hadn’t brought this issue to the front themselves.
11:56 am [ Quote ]
Its funny, its hilarious, Bush can USE and RE-USE, PACKAGE, and RE-PACKAGE the 9/11 disaster to get his war agenda through and then to get re-elected. The GOP convention in New York(would have pitched a tent at the WTC site but some thought that might backfire) ; but don’t let anyone else use tragedy, no sir, unless its for the Republican Cause. Once again, HYPOCRITS.
12:01 pm [ Quote ]
Here is a VERY INTERESTING article about the whole SheeHAM story. A must read.
12:03 pm [ Quote ]
Whoops.. link didn’t work.
or
http://sharpmarbles.stufftoread.com/archive/2005/08/15/grilledCheeseSheehan.aspx
1:05 pm [ Quote ]
Ian… here’s a portion of the transcript of Cindy’s interview w/Hardball’s Chris Matthews. This is the part where she blames her divorce on the war:
MATTHEWS: ... Let me ask you about your situation. Cindy, this is a tricky situation. Every time a family has a tragedy and the loss of a son, your oldest, must be unimaginable.
Sometimes husbands and wives grieve in very different ways and it often leads to separation and divorce. Is that what has happened between and you your husband? Or is this a partisan fight that we’re seeing in the open that’s behind us? The separation and divorce of you and your husband?
SHEEHAN: My husband has always agreed with me philosophically. And he only disagreed with the intensity that I put into the fight. But I am compelled to do this. And other than that, that’s as far as I’m going to talk about my family’s—another personal tragedy due to this war.
Ian: There’s even a video of his interview with both Cindy & the other Pro-Bush mom, and the Iraqi woman on this website:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8972147/
They left the first segment out of her interview, where Chris told her she was smarter and knew more about Iraq than anyone else in Washington, after asking her if she was going to run for Congress.
I’d LOVE to see you link this video to show how truly ludicrous she is.
LadyCop212
1:48 pm [ Quote ]
LadyCop212 I got the video
La Shawn – Sorry I will re read, but I have read it twice and what I got from it, is we need to leave her alone.
2:47 am [ Quote ]
Saying Michelle Malkin is a terrific journalist is like saying William Shatner is a terrific singer. I spat Dr Pepper on my monitor when I read that.
6:45 am [ Quote ]
Her divorce from her husband is not fair game here. Her divorce from reality is.
1:14 am [ Quote ]
>>”You tell me the truth. You tell me that my son died for oil. You tell me that my son died to make your friends rich. You tell me my son died to spread the cancer of Pax Americana, imperialism in the Middle East. You tell me that, you don’t tell me my son died for freedom and democracy.’? — Cindy Sheehan
Noooo… this wack job doesn’t have an agenda!
1:16 am [ Quote ]
Funny how people who speak their minds and ‘go against the flow’ are labeled as “wack jobs.”
May I remind you that JESUS was considered a “wack job?” And Galileo, and Copernicus, and Da Vinci, and Einstein…need I go on??
10:13 am [ Quote ]
I have been all over this site like a buzzard
on fresh road kill, i can tell by the first few lines in a comment who it is posted by ,
some who are librales do not admitted it but i can pick you out, that is not the problem, bush is not the problem , our us congress is the problem that,s why we are paying 5.00 per gallon for gas , that is why we pay high taxes on every thing, that is why we murder three thousand baby,s per month, that is why they want god out of everything, and that is why the islam terrorist is going to murder every american that he can anywhere that he can, we will never stop islam murders from murdering us until we put every one of them to death ,and our congress is not doing that and will never do that ,so we need to remove the congress and put some one in who will unite with cc and get the job done , some nut said that we could control islam terrorist sure that,s what got us 9/11 and the entire postal system shut down for two weeks, so lick the boots of the liberals all you want two, and you might feel the sword of the islam murdere,s. one day or night, or your house being blown apart, or your hospital, or your
apartment, or poison water, or food or the entire electrical system knocked out for a year or more, folks please wake up and get off of the turnip truck before it is to late. by by.
3:00 pm [ Quote ]
Cindy Sheehan has Bush’s balls in a vise. We’re losing in Iraq. God doesn’t exist. We’re evolved from primates.
No amount of praying will change any of this.
Wake up, stupid religious people. Scientists disproved your religion many centuries ago. You’re just like a bunch of fanatical Muslims. You even worship the same god.
Morons.
7:33 pm [ Quote ]
There has been evidence that the marriages of couples who lose a child are not destined to fall apart. 72% of parents who were married at the time of their child’s death are still married to the same person. The remaining 28% of marriages include 16% in which one spouse had died, and only 12% of marriages that ended in divorce. According to “When A Child Dies” among the 12% of parents whose marriages ended in divorce, only one out of four of them felt that the impact of the death of their child contributed to their divorce